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What Do You Think Can Be Done To Stop Puppy Mills?

We want to hear where you stand on this controversial issue.

For months, tempers have been flaring as protestors gather on Route 25 in Aquebogue outside The Puppy Experience to raise awareness about puppy mills.

One week, police were called to the scene after some said demonstrators should not be parking in the Aquebogue Elementary School lot.

Tensions have risen as an attorney for the owner of the store sent a cease and desist letter and threatened litigation; owner Scott Kaphan has broken his silence, stating that his business is being targeted, and suggested that protestors would further their cause more effectively if they were to demonstrate outside actual puppy mills across the United States.

What do you think about this charged issue? Where do you think the solution to this problem lies? Do you think the protestors are performing a valuable mission, to help raise awareness about animal abuse? Or do you think a local businessman's store is being targeted? What long-term solutions do you think would help address the puppy mill issue?

Tell us what you think in the comments section.

barbara d October 5, 2012 at 01:44 pm
The facts are most retail puppy stores use puppy mills or puppy brokers to stock their stores cages.
Puppy mills put profit over health or well being of breeding dogs. Breeding dogs are caged their entire lives. No veterinary care, poor quality food mixed with sawdust to fill the dogs belly. Little or no shelter from the elements. Google puppy mill and educate yourself. The USDA in charge of inspecting puppy mills by its own admission has FAILED. Inspectors were caught falsifying inspection reports among other things. Google USDA 2010 Inspector General Report on Breeding Kennel inspections. The protesters are doing a great service to the public educating on the reality of puppy mills and the connection to retail puppy stores.
Kristie M October 5, 2012 at 04:28 pm
The ASPCA and Humane Society have long documented the pet store-puppy mill connection, estimating that 98% of all pet store puppies come from inhumane mills. There are no exceptions - Long Island is not special or superior in this instance. Breeding parents are classified as livestock and are treated worse than animals we eat because there is, as barara d said, no oversight.
The average consumer has no idea or refuses to believe the cruelty behind the pet store puppy. Demand remains, especially around the holidays, when spur of the moment decisions are made easier by the presence of a pet store. By March or April, shelters start getting the unwanted "gifts" or the puppy is just neglected at its' new home. Not only did the buyer plop down $1200 or more, s/he kept a breeding parent trapped in a mill. What can we do? Educate the public, write letters to elected officials and media outlets and hope that eventually mill oversight is removed from the USDA or the federal gov't shuts them down completely. The cost in dollars of euthanasia, shelter space and employees, and PROPER oversight to all taxpayers would far outweigh the profits of a few factory farms already getting low-cost USDA loans. The profits of selling puppies and kittens should be so highly taxed it becomes unprofitable. We target all pet stores selling puppies, this store happens to have the best turnout. Demonstrations happen across the country, including smaller ones on LI. It is not personal.
Mark K October 5, 2012 at 05:18 pm
Just curious has anyone asked owner Scott Kaphan where he gets his puppies from, have the demonstraters inspected those facilities to ensure they actually are a puppy mills or they working on the assumption 98% of all pet store puppies come from inhumane mills?
Unless they have proof he is selling puppies from a puppy mill (which i have not read or seen any evidence) it just seems the demonstraters like the location of the pet store and visiblity it gives them to all the out of towners visiting the North Fork.
barbara d October 5, 2012 at 05:47 pm
Puppy Experience uses 2 puppy brokers. Hunte Corp, and J.A.K.S. Both are puppy brokers. Brokers are the middleman between puppy mill and retail pet shop. CAPS has done undercover investigation at Hunte Corp. Visit CAPS-WEB.ORG and read their findings. Puppy Experience has also used in the past Kathy Bauck. She was convicted of animal abuse and lost her USDA license to sell puppies to retail stores. This was because of undercover investigation by CAPS. You can view the undercover video of her abuse on breeding dogs at CAPS.WEB.ORG. She continued to sell puppies illegally to retail pet stores on Long Island until CAPS contacted the USDA.
Here is a link to a USDA story about Hunte It shows some of the " breeders" they use. It is just an example of the cruelty behind pet shop puppies. http://safehavenfosterhome.webs.com/puppymillinvestigations.htm
jodi jarvis October 5, 2012 at 06:51 pm
Well said guys. And I will be there to protest right along side you
nelson a. walter October 6, 2012 at 04:06 am
can any of these people know for a fact that these puppys come from a millmor a upstanding breeder? or do they just start lieing and hurt a persons bussiness?????
Lisa October 6, 2012 at 10:30 am
Reputable breeders DO NOT sell puppies to pet/puppy stores. A pet/puppy shop is not looking out for an animals well being, they are looking for profit. If Mr. Kaplan wants to ensure the health of his dogs, why doesn't he become a breeder? There is no question that these dogs come from in humane or at the least unideal environments.
As someone who adopted a dog who is a rescued puppymill mother. I know something has to be done to stop puppy mills. One way to do this is to get puppy shops to stop selling these dogs. A big thank you to the protestors for all they are doing to end the abuse cycle!
Gigi October 6, 2012 at 11:39 am
How to stop it???
Buy from an animal shelter ONLY!!!
Karen Roberts October 6, 2012 at 01:00 pm
To be the voice for these precious lives who are subjected to horrible abuse and sever neglect as breeder dogs I think we should target puppy store, puppy mills, and anyone going into a puppy store to buy a dog. We shouldn't have to be overly sensitive to humans while the dogs suffer. Until this problem, which is running RAMPANT across the country is resolved, no one in the pet industry should exempt from accountability. If you are a responsible breeder, you should be equally offended by these practices. And if you are a store owner making $$ off puppies, and you don't know with absolute certainty that your dogs are not from puppy mills, then shame on you for contributing to the problem. And frankly, if you claim to love dogs in any way, you would be involved in RESCUE, not selling puppies from breeders of any kind.
Linda Haas October 6, 2012 at 01:04 pm
Setting emotions and humanity aside because I could rant forever on those, from a purely economic viewpoint it makes no sense to allow (and in some cases subsidize) the production of thousands of new dogs while spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to murder thousands of innocent dogs. Puppy mills are a scourge that need to be eliminated.
Kristie M October 6, 2012 at 02:07 pm
Hi Nelson, these are fair questions. First, we do know these puppies come from mills. CAPS (above) does their homework. No upstanding breeder would pack breeding dogs into wire-floor stacked rabbit hutches where urine and poop hit the dogs, food and water of those below. USDA-certified means factory-farming conditions are the standard. Food & water only need to be checked every two weeks, see how this goes? If you View AWA Inspection Reports at the link below you'll see why people spend their weekends, after working all week, on the sidewalk holding a sign. Keep in mind the USDA inspects less than 5%-10% of mills each year and shuts down less than 1% of those. http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_welfare/
Puppies are then loaded onto truck to be sold to anyone who can pay. This is not reputable anything. I don't know Scott or the owners of any pet store, though I seriously question their lack of ethics. A friend and I were at a different store. One of the employees came out to make fun of us. The minute her husband showed up he went inside. The minute her husband left, he came back out. We were laughing at what a loser he was! This is not a man of any sort of integrity.
Rebecca Martin October 6, 2012 at 02:34 pm
I commend all those who are taking their personnel time to bring awareness to this situation. It should also be noted that the puppies in the store are being kept in small cages all day and night. Who walks them? Are they left lying in their own feces and urine? I am also curious what happens to those that do not sell? Surely not all the pups are purchased and who wants to buy and older dog when there is a cute puppy in the next cage? As a volunteer in a shelter I have seen these breeding pairs first hand. Many are not adoptable due to lack of socialization and human contact, medical issues as well. It takes a lot of time and $ to for the non-profits to bring these dogs adoptable. We have seen breeding pairs simply dumped many rural breeders find that a bullet in the head is most cost affective. Don't kid yourself, don't bury your heads in the sand and don't buy from puppy stores or the internet!
Keep up the good work!
pam October 7, 2012 at 02:09 am
Change the laws and inforce them. This all just makes me ill.
Kristie M October 7, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Lily was a breeding dog sold at auction. Watcha few minutes of her story or just look at her and then please, tell us ANYONE has a right to participate in the cycle of cruelty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4nT94AYsVo
Deb December 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Mark,
The nature of Puppy Mills and the stores that sell the puppies is the lack of visibility. That is the problem. Puppy mill breeders and brokers stand to lose tremendous amounts of money even if their animals are well-looked after. I have a background on farms, and this is even true of most conventional livestock operations. The burden of transparency needs to be on the store. Someone without something to hide, especially regarding a living being, will not have a problem with letting people know and see the conditions they are living in. This, I know, from experience in business and with animals of all kinds.
Deb December 13, 2012 at 02:40 pm
"if you claim to love dogs in any way, you would be involved in RESCUE, not selling puppies from breeders of any kind."
My belief exactly. Kennels clubs of all kinds have benefited from an increased interest in "pure bred" dogs and cats. Abdicating their role makes them complicit in what is happening. A responsible organization holds their members accountable, unless their only interested in the money .... Maintaining that responsible breeders have different practices can become a fine line when breeds are ruined even within the guidelines of what is acceptable. Breeding is as much about trend as anything else - favoured sires and lines, an excessive coat, slant of the head, or narrowness of features; amount of wrinkles, colour .... What do any of these have to do with having a good canine citizen or pet? Some "reputable" breeders keep their dogs caged, and breeding kennels for sport dogs are known for keeping their animals penned and over-emphsizing desirability of show traits or ability to make money. Culling is a practice inherent in breeding. Ask about the recent occurrence of white boxers that were never seen before – as adults. There is a ruthless side of breeding, including many farming operations. Most people are unaware and would prefer not to think about it. That's often the greatest source of suffering: ignorance and an unwillingness to change even once we do become aware because we value convenience or prevention of another's suffering. .
Deb December 13, 2012 at 02:52 pm
Much of the response by those in the "animal industry" reminds me of when holding a person in slavery was okay because they were "just animals"! A contempt for the people they were attempting to make a comparison with - that are no more like animals than the rest of the human population. The contempt for animals was the basis in that they were considered less than humans. Ignorance is behind those claims like it is in the "pet industry".
There was talk in the past about whether or not someone was a good slave owner, as if that was any justification for the act of slavery. Whether or not it is a business - agriculture or otherwise - does not excuse the lack concern for another's well being. Child labour, sweatshops, workers killed through neglect and appalling work conditions ... there has been legislation against these and there needs to be the same for animals - period. What people are willing to do to animals they are also willing to do to people; there’s too much proof to ignore this connection. Research has documented links between domestic violence among those who kill and abuse animals – even if they do it as a recognized part of their profession. Likely, it relates to the common wisdom to become hardened to the realities. I have not become hardened, and I am able to deal with more than those I know who tend not to deal with their difficult feelings ... It is possible to do it without drugs or alcohol, or becoming desensitized to the horrors - and do it better.

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