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Altschuler Blasts Bishop's Offer To Undocumented Immigrants

But residents don't all agree with the Republican challenger.

A move by U.S. Rep. Tim Bishop, D-Southampton, to offer to help young illegal immigrants qualify for President Obama's and avoid being deported was slammed this week by Randy Altschuler, R-Smithtown, Bishop's opponent in the next election. Locals, however, are mixed on whether they believe the congressman's offer of aid is a bad idea. 

"Randy Altschuler is taking his campaign strategy from the Tea Party," said Mike Anthony, a member of the Hamptons Bays-based Neighbors in Support of Immigrants and former chair of the Southampton Town Democratic Party. "It's surprising that an international businesssman ... can't recognize the economic benefits of offering young immigrants legal status until Congress acts in a positive way."

Anthony cited a report from the North American Integration and Development Center at UCLA that indicates the policy will generate billions in economic growth.

Meanwhile, Amagansett resident Lynda Edwards said she believes the issue should be settled in Congress before any action is taken. "I'm not happy that Bishop's involved at all. I don't think it's an appropriate thing for him to be doing," she said. 

President Obama last week surprised the country when he announced a plan to stop deporting young illegal immigrants that would allow some of the more than 800,000 immigrants who came to the country as children to obtain work visas. The policy decision was not met with celebration by Republicans.

"Congressman Bishop’s announcement today is a slap in the face to the more than 30,000 Long Islanders who have lost their jobs since he took office nearly 10 years ago,” Altschuler said.  "While his constituents are in the midst of a deep and sustained economic crisis, Tim Bishop is using taxpayer-funded employees in his office to implement President Obama’s unilateral, backdoor amnesty program for illegal immigrants.

Bishop annnounced that a full-time caseworker employed by his office is standing by to assist young poeople seeking temporary legal status announced Friday by Obama that would stop deportation of some illegals.

"I voted to pass the DREAM Act in the House, and I support the President taking executive action to give young people who came to America as children a chance to legally contribute to our society," Bishop said. "This is a positive development for fairness in our immigration policy."

In order to be eligible, young people must have arrived in the United States under the age of 16, have resided in the United States continually for at least five years, be currently in school or have graduated from high school, obtained a GED, or be honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces, have not been convicted of a felony or significant or multiple misdemeanors, must not pose a threat to national security or public safety, and cannot be over the age of 30.

The policy is currently in effect and implication of the application process is expected to commence within 60 days. 

Elaine Kahl, founder of the Suffolk County Coalition for Legal Immigration/No Amnesty and Citizens Forum, said she was unsettled by Bishop's actions. "While some congressmen have wisely condemned the President's illegal amnesty, it is disturbing that Tim Bishop has doubled down on Obama's cheap political trick to reward illegal aliens," she said.

Southampton resident John Bouvier said although Altschuler spoke out against Bishop's support of the DREAM Act, the legislation was "an idea, by the way, that Randy’s own supporters in the GOP defended during the recent Republican debates."

Sylvia Baruch, founder of NISI, said the economic impacts of Obama's policy are positive. "Putting talented and educated young people into the economic system and having them pay taxes is a good way to improve the economic climate and productivity of Long Island and the country. Besides, as President Obama said, this is the right thing to do--morality counts as much as economics."

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Carole Campolo June 20, 2012 at 11:45 pm
By Obama's own words his use of an Executive Order is illegal in this instance. He said so in front of La Raza, he said so in a CNN interview and he said so in front of another audience in response to a question about what can he do to get around Congressional rejection of the Dream Act. And that rejection was not only Republicans who are not in the majority as the Dems were in Obama's first two years when they had both houses of Congress. He easily could have passed his Dream Act, but he knew his own party would not vote for it and he had to save his political capital for Obamacare. I would ask those that support "illegal" immigration, what of all of the people who have gone the legal route; who have studied and spent money on immigration attorneys to become legal Americans, (and I know a number who have taken this very long and expensive route); who are going through the process now; how fair is it to them, to allow people to "jump the line?" And I am incredibly sympathetic to kids who through no fault of their own are in this predicament. You all should be blaming their parents who put them in this position. But, so many law abiding people are going through the immigration process and some how they are forgotten in this discussion. Where are their defenders? Bishop's record is totally lackluster. Look at this own website. No legislation bearing his name. Look it up. It is time for him to go. Randy is accomplished, smart and a breath of fresh air.
forward thinking June 21, 2012 at 12:12 am
TO THOSE WHO WHINE THAT THE OPPISITION HAS NO PLAN JUST "WILD CRITIQUES" TRY THIS MAKE THEM ALL LEGAL - AFTER THEY SUBMIT 2 YEARS OF INCOME TAXES RETURNS AND RECEIPTS FOR THE MEDICAL INSURANCE THEY PAID. ADD A SPECIAL LIBERAL TAX TO THOSE WHO SUPPORT MAKING ILLEGALS "LEGAL". I MUST HAVE HAD MY TIN HAT ON WHEN I WROTE THIS
Local and Taxpayer June 21, 2012 at 10:39 am
A very importent issue for all Americans
Believer in the USA June 21, 2012 at 12:29 pm
They are criminals who are being rewarded with a fast tract to citizenship. In the "olden"days we came in through the front door, waited our turn, had to have money and family here, took an English; speaking, reading and writing test as well as a civic exam and had to be screened for diseases and criminal record check. Now we crawl in and expect free everything
Mo Neill June 21, 2012 at 06:30 pm
Believer in the USA even though nobody questioned the existence of the USA,
Yr knowledge of the history of immigration in the U.S. is woeful. There never were the good ole days when yr family arrived to these shores. 1/3 of the Irish immigrants who arrived in U.S. ports seeking relief from the English oppression that caused the Great Hunger, were turned away by customs if a person on the ship was ill or had died, which was not at all uncommon. That is why the Irish called them "coffin ships." The captains simply went up to Canada where the Irish disembarked. They then made their way into the U.S. Those that died in the voyage from NY or Boston & other ports on their voyage up to the St. Lawrence, were buried in paupers graves. It is why the largest graveyard outside of Ireland is located at Grosse Ile in Quebec, the first stop in Canada. The overwhelming majority of survivors disembarked & simply snuck into the U.S. It was also true for Italians & Eastern European emigrees, among others. You are also utterly wrong about giving any test to immigrants proving they speak &/or write English or were literate. Congress, under the anti-immigrant antics of the Know Nothings, did pass laws several times from the 19th C to the 20th C requiring literacy & English proficiency of immigrants. Each time they were vetoed by both Dem & Repub Presidents, who understood the origins of these laws were Know Nothing hatred of foreigners seeking entry. (part 2 to continue)
Mo Neill June 22, 2012 at 03:34 am
Joanne,
You are exactly right that youth leaving LI is a very large problem & is unsustainable. This trend has been going on for 35 yrs & shows little chance of turning around. You might read the Rauch Foundation's comprehensive report called "LI Index, 2005." http://www.longislandindex.org/liis_res.html#data-search Their research/surveys/analysis shows rather conclusively the reason educated young folk have been leaving LI is lack of affordable housing, which is nearly unattainable, esp for young graduates in substantial debt (that the Repubs just might might make much greater, with their servile solicitude for bank profits with their guaranteed subsidy by government for their education loans, called corporate welfare.) Youth leaving LI It has little to nothing to do about immigration to LI. In fact, LI would have had a net loss of population for the last 12 yrs, except for immigration. Immigration has staved off economic disaster for LI that has been countering the flight of educated young people & made its population grow slightly, instead of a dislocating shrinking without them. It is the same entrepreneurial spirit of immigrants historically that built the economic colossus which is the U.S. Immigrants on LI have reinvigorated our economy here too. Where, when did Tim Bishop drain billions of dollars from Medicare & Social Security? Was it the same hateful FDR Socialist Security Repubs have been trying to kill for years by privatizing it for salivating Wall St profit?
Mo Neill June 22, 2012 at 04:27 am
Joanne,
You are misinformed, (as if that would make any difference for a true believer.) It takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster in the Senate, which is now the default to get anything passed with a Repub Party in lockstep. Democrats didn’t reach that 60-seat threshold in the Senate until Sen. Al Franken was sworn in. They lost that majority upon the swearing-in of Sen. Scott Brown just under six months later. The actual amount of time the Democrats held a filibuster-proof majority, when you factor in the late Sen. Ted Kennedy‘s illness and the winter recess, amounts to 14 weeks. What non-Democrats often fail to realize is that a Democratic majority isn’t like other majorities. Republicans can be relied on to lock arms from a hard right Jim DeMint to a moderate Olympia Snow and stay put no matter what disaster their recalcitrance might bring down upon the nation, there are always about 10% of Democrats willing to make political hay in their Repub state. To the extent that Barack Obama ever had a filibuster-proof majority, he still had to water everything down just to get past his own party. They are the reason the President ended up with a much too-small stimulus package that was 40% tax cuts. President did manage to get a few things done, like saving the auto industry, reversing 750,000-per-month job losses, passing health care reform, rescuing the economy from a new Great Depression. it’s just not accurate to say he frittered away a very tiny window.
Jaguar-Guy June 22, 2012 at 09:53 am
The Democratic Congress in 2010 drained 500 Billion from Medicare to pay for the Affordable Care Act - which will be struck down in it's entirety as Unconstitutional come Mon.
Jaguar-Guy June 22, 2012 at 09:55 am
Undocumented Aliens ???
Jaguar-Guy June 22, 2012 at 09:59 am
Don't worry Joanne, Mo doesn't live on Long Island and is a Bishop Operative. She never comments on anything other than this thread - so she will be gone soon.
The Edumacator June 22, 2012 at 10:05 am
http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012/03/our-highest-4-pinocchio-rating-for-rep-tim-bishop-this-is-one-for-the-books/
Rick Hoyt June 22, 2012 at 10:54 am
Mo - "Immigration Has Staved Off Economic Disaster for Long Island ..." ? Ay Carumba ! - Illegals - Not Paying Into The System,Send Alot Of Their Cash To Their To Their Countries Of Origin-"Remiittance",Use Food Stamps, Free Housing,Free Education, Many Drive Without Licenses Or Insurance.Could You Please Enlighten Us How They Saved Us ?
Jaguar-Guy June 22, 2012 at 10:59 am
Oh please, don't encourage her !!!! She is ONLY going to insult you, and then twist stats.
Danielle O June 22, 2012 at 11:02 am
I didn't know illegal immigrants can work for the coast guard or armed services??? Am I missing something?
Rick Hoyt June 22, 2012 at 11:08 am
Also Mo - You Seem "Stuck" In Your Liberal Bubble, It's All The Republi"cons" Fault, How About - The Whole System Is Broken - Republicans/Democrats/Big Business - They Are In It Together.More Poor And Rich Than Ever, Poor Don't Pay Taxes - Get All Entitlements, The Rich Have Lawyers And Loopholes - Not Paying Taxes Either, As Usual The Middle Class Gets Duped Again.Meanwhile Giving Foreign Aid, Illegal Wars - FUBAR.
Joanne Toresko June 22, 2012 at 05:51 pm
Mo,
Actually, housing on LI is more affordable than it has been in years. Prices have dropped through the floor, but property taxes have not, in any way, reflected the loss of equity. Young people buy a house down south with the same price tag as one on LI, but save thousands of dollars in property taxes. The "Affordable Heath Care Act" took $500 billion from Medicare. They needed the money to cover the huge expansion in Medicaid mandated in the new law. According to a 2011 report from the Medicare Board of Trustees, "Under high cost assumptions....asset depletion would occur in 2016.". Congressman Bisop voted to reduce FICA payments by 2%. Those dollars are the funding mechanism for the "Social Security Trust Fund". The money is being removed, without "being paid for". So it would appear the party of FDR is complicit in the demise of both his signature issues. They just don't want those poor old seniors to find out about it until after November 2012.
Preliator June 22, 2012 at 07:10 pm
Mo is not stuck, they just come from one of the 57 states Obama visited..Denial.
Joanne Toresko June 23, 2012 at 02:58 am
Mo,
So they couldn't get immigration reform done when they had a filibuster proof Senate but they could get a 2,000+ health care bill (that had to be passed before we could understand what was in it) within that 14 week window? I expect President Obama was making that very case to Latino Leaders this very day. Ooooops. No he didn't, because he didn't want to get laughed out of the room. Swing and a miss.
robkoz June 23, 2012 at 03:42 am
LI housing has been affordable in years and have dropped to the floor? What year are you referring too? The 1990's were the last year housing on LI was truly affordable. And I'm talking housing AND property taxes.
Joanne Toresko June 23, 2012 at 04:17 am
Prices have dropped 30-40%, but as I said, property taxes are the deal killers. If taxes had dropped at the same rate young people would be more likely to seek careers and houses here on LI.
As it is they head out of town.
forward thinking June 23, 2012 at 11:24 am
let me make this abundantly clear li is by far in the upper %’tiles in road quality, school quality, social qualities, housing, police / fire protection, stores and on / on etc.,. we choose to live here and have the better things in life – folks it costs money… to have our manicured lawns etc… it takes workers…. ask your kids or neighbors kids to do it if you can get them off computers / i pads, smart phones etc… we the society perpetuate illegal’s… we have put a value on lawn mowing etc… and that value does not include the 30% tax rate… do you who use them pay to the gov’t the 30% “i think not”. are you any different than the “corporate profit mongers.. “ i think not”. i can take the moral high road as my industry requires skilled / educated workers that use their hands that are connected to their brains and unless you were experienced and educated (generally illegal’s are smart but not educated) you cannot work in my industry. i as a kid picked potatoes for 10 cents a bag (100 lbs) weeded strawberries and hand cultivated fields, this work was “off the books”, but have paid 5 figure taxes many years since. born and brought up over 70 years ago on li. property taxes are high because we have to pay the 30% that the illegal’s are not paying – illegal’s used by some and paid by all. this does not address the excessive compensation that is afforded to elected officials… and therein lies another “rant/ rave”.
Meadow Lane June 25, 2012 at 01:04 pm
More of Altschuler's hit-and-run attacks. Where was Randy and where were his suggestions and ideas when America was in the biggest financial crisis since the Depression? Now he comes out of the closet like a know-it-all when, in fact, he has zero experience in government. And, folks, that's the reason we never heard from Randy when the country needed intelligent men and women with good ideas. I call him Randy 4 Altschuler and nobody else. Typical of wanna-be politicos.
SashaK July 21, 2012 at 04:32 pm
When Americans wonder why the jobless rate for legal Americans got worse where do you think the fault goes to? Are we supposed to overlook all the Americans who have come here legally? Allowing illegals to just float through the system is wrong. So when these people that are illegal take American jobs...where does that leave born and bred OR immegrants who came here legally???? In the economic dust..thats where. I stand with Randy Altschuler !
SashaK July 21, 2012 at 04:45 pm
@Meadow Lane..You are kidding right..You are suggesting we are out of a financial crisis.NOT. Funny..Obama had zero expierience in government but he is the President. I strongly believe in Randy Altschuler to get this country on track and away from this progressive plan that is being shoved down our throats.Randy is a self made man who was raised by a single loving mother . I see every reason he has all the expierience necessary.He didn't wake up with money in his pocket. He worked for it and had the brains to make a success out of himself. How his mother must be proud and for every reason she should be.
SashaK July 21, 2012 at 04:54 pm
Excuse me Meadow Lane but the idea of Divide and Conquer is the progressive democratic liberal way. This country has never been so divided as to what the LEFT has done. Then again people have allowed this ignorance to infiltrate their lives and their brains. What do we know is that Tim has supported the idea of: Socialism..Class warfare, racial divide..He is a man who has proven by all of his votes he supports the END OF FREEDOM and CAPITALISM,yes..that's a man to stick with.(NOT).someone who divides Americans every chance he can get?No thanks.I'll stick with Randy Altschuler and pray to GOD people have enough common sense to see the truth .
North Fork Bob September 4, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Obama did this for VOTES plain and simple.He doesn't care if it causes us continued hardship.
ARice September 10, 2012 at 08:50 pm
You better stay in bed come November third not gonna be a good day for you Obama supporters and his tax and spend political hacks like Timmy.
ARice September 10, 2012 at 08:55 pm
To Mo neill ..... You think if you can control the language you can win the debate? we don't play.
illegal alien   noun 1. a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization. 2. a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson. Compare resident alien.
janet kent September 10, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Well said SashaK!!!
forward thinking September 10, 2012 at 10:42 pm
ALL POL'S ARE 4 THEMSELVES - EVIDENCE - THEIR RETIREMENT PLAN AND MEDICAL YOU PAY FOR.. RANDY MAY BE TYPICAL BUT THE OTHER GUY DEFINES SELF-SERVING POLITICOS.. ALL OUR HOT AIR, MINE AND YOURS IS WASTED.. WE SHOULD LOBBY FOR STUDENT LOAN BAILOUT -- WHY NOT GM GOT IT AND STILL HASN'T PAID ALL BACK WALL STREET IS THE LOWEST OF ALL - WHEN THEY HAVE HUGE PROFITS "THEY KEEP IT" WHEN THEY LOOSE YOU AND I HAVE TO BAIL THEM OUT... HOW ABOUT SEND EVERY ONE SHARES ACCORDING TO THEIR TAX BASE ( DO GET MY 35%) HA ...

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