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Tensions Escalate Over Riverside Affordable Housing Controversy

A town board meeting this week sparked discord between community groups and Southampton officials.

A divide between members of the Riverside community and the Southampton Town board continues to widen after a town board meeting on Tuesday that drew a line in the proverbial sand.

For weeks, four community groups in the Riverside and Flanders area have voiced their mutualby the Town's housing authority to determine whether residents would rather have affordable private home ownership or rentals developed in a number of properties that will be deeded to the town by Suffolk County.

On Tuesday, a crowd of residents, including representatives from all four community groups in the Riverside and Flanders area, stood in solidarity. "No one testified in support of the proposal for tax exempt single family rentals in Riverside," said Vince Taldone, Flanders, Riverside, and Northampton Civic Association vice president. 

He added that both Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst and Councilwoman Bridget Fleming "tried repeatedly to obfuscate and tell half truths about alleged consideration of similar projects in other parts of town. When pressed by a member of our organization to name the other sites in town that are in the pipeline for tax exempt single family houses, there was only a general discussion of studying such sites. Of course, that is because there are no other affordable single family home projects advancing to construction in any hamlets outside ours. Not one."

On Thursday, Throne-Holst commented on the controversy over the survey. "I'm a little taken aback by the resistance from this group to what is at issue here; namely, the proposed mailing of a survey to ascertain the interest, or not, in workforce housing alternatives in the area," she said. "Why wouldn't any and all want to give as many people as possible the opportunity to weigh in?"

While the town is "well aware and respectful of" FRNCA's position, Throne-Holst said a survey would help all involved glean as much useful informaton as possible.

For some time, the FRNCA and other community groups have opposed the development of single family, property-tax exempt rental housing in the Riverside area. 

FRNCA president Brad Bender has long said the houses should be utilized not for rentals, but for affordable home ownership where residents would be vested in the community. “We are not against affordable housing,” said Bender. “Those properties pay zero property tax, thus shifting the burden of lost revenue to the homeowners in the district.” 

The 72-H properties were previously seized by Suffolk County for non-payment of back taxes. They were later deeded to Southampton Town with the understanding that the town’s housing authority would rehabilitate the properties for use as affordable housing.

Town officials and Richard Blowes, executive director of the housing authority, have said they would like to see developed.

"I continue to support the development of affordable housing opportunities, as our young men, women and families continue to leave Southampton in search of just that," Bender said on Friday. "We need to continue to create homes for ownership and any rental properties developed should be required to make payment in lieu of taxes (PILOT) payments to offset the tax loss to the community."

At Tuesday's meeting, Taldone said Fleming "was the most ferocious in her attack on my comments. She apparently finds no difference between the benefit of having home owners on the block as oposed to an absentee landlord with only tenants in occupancy."

Fleming responded on Thursday and said she continues to work with the community and the town's housing authority to find common ground and to "come up with real solutions to difficult problems. Housing blight from absentee landlords is an issue we can't ignore," she said.

Fleming said she is proud of a recent affordable home refurbishment completed with United Way and YouthBuild on Ludlam Avenue in Riverside. Fleming said she also added amendments to two resolutions to ensure the concerns of community members "are not ignored." The resolutions, she said, were adopted unanimously. 

Moving forward, Taldone said plans include a "last ditch effort," by FRNCA to reach out to the three Republicans on the town board to introduce a resolution, amending the original that authorizes the transfer of the five Riverside parcels in question to the town's housing authority, so that the reso reads  "use for affordable home ownership only."

He added, "If they are willing to do that, I imagine that the housing authority will abandon its effort to force the house rentals down our throats since the survey, no matter how craftily worded, won't change things."

On Friday, Councilman Chris Nuzzi said he would support the resolution in regard to the properties discussed being developed for affordable home ownership only. "I always intended for that to be the case," he said.

Taldone said "sadly" the supervisor and town board would not "back away" from the decision to send out the surveys; Taldone says the views of the community are clear and the survey is a waste of time and money.

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Algebra June 29, 2012 at 07:17 pm
Who is the "survey" being sent to? Is anyone going to see it before it is sent to ensure it is not similar to a "push" poll?
Walter S June 30, 2012 at 12:18 pm
And similarly, who is going to see the results? who is going to determine what the results are? Seems the town will be going through this motion and do what they want to do anyway. This survey sounds like a farce. Maybe the Suffolk DA should get involved with this also along with the police investigation. Something does not seem right here, someone's getting paid off.
Bob June 30, 2012 at 01:54 pm
What Misses Flemming and Throne-Holst don't seem to understand are several things:
-Adding more rental houses to a blighted area, already saturated with absentee landlords, will make the area worse for residents. I challenge Fleming, Throne-Holst and their appointees on the Housing Authority board to walk down several streets in Riverside alone after dark. Maybe then, they would understand why we want more owners with eyes on the street. -There is resistance to the survey because these two politicians want to survey a community that has LOUDLY said "NO" through its four independent community associations (with hundreds and hundreds of members). Would these two politicians ignore the community associations in other hamlets? I highly doubt it. -These two politicians are not forcing other communities to accept the construction of tax exempt single family rentals -- only the communities that can least afford it. -Their survey is a waste of taxpayer money. -Having the Housing Authority send out their biased survey will require the community associations to spend money sending out accurate information about affordable housing. The associations would rather use that money for community improvement projects.
Vince Taldone June 30, 2012 at 02:13 pm
Instead of fighting against us, I wish the town would work with FRNCA and its other local community associations to build the types of affordable housing that have broad-based support. There is support for rental complexes and accessory apartments for seniors, the disabled and for our young people who need modest sized, reasonably priced apartments so they aren't forced to move away from Southampton.
In addition to our residents, our business community needs that workforce housing to retain those young people to staff their enterprises and to become future customers. As those young people advance and prosper, they can move on to rent homes from the private sector or buy homes when the time and economics are right.
Lisa Votino-Tarrant July 1, 2012 at 01:00 pm
Were there any restrictions placed by the county when it deeded this land to the town? I'm not against a survey, but I feel the people that will actually fill it out and send it back will be the same people who have very strong positions on this issue. I will say, with the caveat that this is the only article I have read about this, I would lean much more towards home ownership. FRN is already saddled with too many rentals and really needs some community building. Is there a way to make a mixed project of this? Maybe a few rentals with some homes if nicely done?
Walter S July 1, 2012 at 01:06 pm
Has it ever been stated who the landlords would be of these houses? Who will be collecting the rent?
If these houses are valued at $152,000, perhaps all us existing homeowners should be filing tax grievances and have our taxes reduced since these houses are most likely comparable to our own. The town has just incresed the value of my home to double what these houses are are being valued at and I have a small home. We should all file tax grievances if this goes through.
Bob July 1, 2012 at 02:30 pm
These are two different programs: one is the home ownership program with affordable $152,000 homes; the other is a single-family tax exempt rental program by the town's Housing Authority.
With the rentals, the landlords would be the town's Housing Authority. They would be collecting rent and not paying taxes on the properties, increasing the tax burden for the rest of the Riverside/Flanders/Northampton communities. With the home ownership program (subsidized houses selling for $150,000), the town's tax assessor will determine the assessed value based on the market price of the house. However, these homes have deed restrictions, limiting the owner's ability to profit from a resale. Therefore, they are not comparable to homes sold free and clear of restrictions. Any appraiser, who knows what he or she is doing, should understand the substantial difference in value between the subsidized houses and unrestricted private homes. I would suggest, if your assessed value has been increasing while property values are falling (which is the case for all of us in the Flanders area), you should certainly file a grievance. Check the sale prices of homes in your area to find those that are similar to your own. The subsidized priced homes will not help you to challenge your taxes because of the deed restrictions.
Walter S July 1, 2012 at 03:48 pm
Bob, I challenge my tax assessment every 2-3 years and I always win, never at the town level but at the Suffolk County courts.
Another thing that is distressing is this Getty station at the circle. It has been vacant for how many years now? This is truly an eyesore- what a welcome for anyone visiting our communities and it is the first thing you see coming here into our hamlets. I worry if these houses do not sell or rent, we will have more of this.
Bob July 1, 2012 at 03:59 pm
Walter, that is why FRNCA (your local community association) is working so hard to ensure reinvestment in our area. If you are not already a member, I suggest that you join them or at least attend one of their monthly meetings, which are open to the public. The next meeting is on July 9th at 7pm in the David Crohan Community Center on Flanders Road.

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